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I watch The Daily Show, I enjoy The Daily Show, and I respect and admire The Daily Show. But I also realize that I shouln't count on them for news, or take everything Jon Stewart says at face value. And I realize that they are only humans, and therefore have faults, and make mistakes, just like everyone else.

Lately, I have seen a lot of people criticize the Daily show, and their role in the media. And while many of the allegations have been very valid (sexism, racism, and ableism etc), there are some allegations that I do not agree with. At all.

 

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No, I don't. There are so many people who deserve attention, money, and recognition far more than celebrities do. (I'm thinking about people like doctors/nurses, therapists, firefigthers, and other people who's made a real difference it peoples lives.) Our culture is fucked up in regards of a lot of things, and fame is one of them; and although you can't put it in the same category as racism, sexism, and others forms of -isms, it still does some damage to our culture(tabloids, for one, puts up certain body images, invades privacy, and focuses on beauty to a scary degree).

Of course, how much fame is deserved, also depends on the celebrity. If you look at someone like Jon Stewart, he is famous for other reasons than, for example, Miley Cyrus is. In my mind he deserves fame, the money, and recognition(not as much as doctors, firefighters, therapists etc, but far more than Miley Cyrus), because he's famous for making a difference in our culture, in regards of things that matter.

And it is some very positive changes he's made; he's gotten young people into politics again, he has made them care more about different political issues, the news, and social justice. Even if this is done through satire and comedy, it has had an impact on a lot of people, and made a change in peoples lives(mine included).

When you compare that to Miley Cyrus, The Jonas Brothes, and Justin Bieber, who make mindless teen music, there's a huge difference.

And then you can take J.K Rowling, and compare her to Stephanie Meyer, and see what difference that makes. J.K Rowling can write, Stephanie Meyer can not. J.K Rowlings books are about love, loyalty, friendship and bravery. Stephenie Meyers are about sparkly abusive vampires, and being 'in love'. J.k Rowling has gotten a lot of children into reading again, taught them wonderful morals, and wrote them a fantastic story. Stephanie Meyer has glorified abusive relationships and bad writing, and made a sorry excuse of a story.

You can be famous for a lot of things; unfortunately it's often the most shallow and non-important things that gets the most attention. So yes, our culture is messed up in regards of this, even if it does sometime get it right; (Jon Stewart, J.K Rowling, etc). I'm not saying that there's something wrong with mindless pop music, or shitty written stories, I'm guilty of liking some of those things myself(Lady Gaga), but the glorification and attention these things get, compared to others, is messed up, in my opinion.


The again, this is only my, very biased, opinion on this issue, so idk.


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Jun. 24th, 2010 10:35 am
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Okay,  so I just read this article, about The Daily Shows lack of women, and how the show can be sexist sometimes.

It's true, The Daily Show needs more females on the show, and it's dissapointing to hear about their history with women, it really is. It's a big problem, and it's important to adress.

But that wasn't really what caught my attention in this article.

It was the stories about Jon being a jerk; throwing scripts at someone, having feuds with people, being full of joyless rage backstage, and generally not seeming like a very kind boss, that distracted me from the article's overall point.

If this is true? then it breaks my heart. I love Jon I really do, so much, but this is just so dissapointing to hear, especially when you hear about how well Stephen treats his cast and crew. Is Jon really like this? I mean, of course he is different from when he is on camera, but I did not expect this to be the case.

I feel like a bad feminist/woman because this is what I'm focusing on instead of the patriarchal ways of our culture, but I need to get over my fangirl heart-break before I can deal with any of that .

I really hope this article is disengenious, in regards of how Jon Stewart is like, because if it isn't? then I have definitely lost some respect for the man.

Lets hope that he really isn't like this article describes him to be.

I really can't imagine this to be true and I hope it isn't.

ETA: someone wrote this on TDS's forum on TWOP:  "This doesn't fit at all with what I know. A relative of mine has actually met him and says that both he and his wife are some of the nicest people my relative had met in show business. Granted, this is strictly hearsay, but hearsay from a source I very much trust. I suspect some of what happens is that these people simply aren't cutting it and it just so happens that they're female. I've seen Lauren Weedman on other programs. She's a staple on VH1 and she's not funny.

As for Jon supposedly throwing a script, it's probably true. But haven't we all reacted in a way we later wish we hadn't? Given that it's not a story he tells or anything, I believe that if it did happen he's certainly not proud of it. And I also bet that he was feeling a lot of pressure back then because he wasn't American Sweetheart Jon Stewart, he was Dude With A Basic Cable Show Jon Stewart."

http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=c764568ac67138eee741002ff1803878&showtopic=1162733&pid=13027500&st=39840&#entry13027500.

So yeah, I don't know.

ETA 2: Oh you guys; leave it to you to get some Jon-love up in this bitch:').<333
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Hypocrisy regarding misogyny and sexism on the left?

It exists, and I am so sick of it. What makes Bill Maher's sexist drivel any better than Bill O'reilly's? Why is it okay for Chris Matthews to be commenting on the looks of female pundits or politicans, instead of their work? Because they are on the left, we are supposed to 'accept it' or 'chill out', because they are on 'our side'? Hell no, misogyny is misogyny no matter what party you belong to, and I HATE seeing the same people on the left who complain about misogyny and sexism on the Republican side, accept and play down misogyny when it comes to the left. 

And yes, the right does this as well, obviously. There are Republicans who fight sexism against Sarah Palin, and then turn around and bash Hillary Clinton using misogynist slurs. These people are hypocrits, I am not defending that.

But this is not about the Republican party, because that is not what I'm talking about here. When I see Republicans say this stuff, I obviously get angry and hurt, like I should, but not as hurt and angry as when I see a supposed 'liberal person', who calls out Republican's sexism on regular basis, turn around and defend misogyny on the left, because the person who said it 'didn't mean it like that' or because they 'agree with other points the person makes'. What makes you different than a republican person defending misogyny on the right?

A Democrat, fighting sexism on the right, who then starts to make remarks regarding Sarah Palin's looks and body, and calls her for misogynist slurs, is no better than the person they were calling out before that.

The Daily Show, which I love and adore, has made some borderline sexist comments in the past, and I call them out whenever I can. It is possible to be a fan and still call out these things, and as long as Jon stewart don't start to regularly making outright misogynist remarks, I can deal with it. 

But what I have never heard Jon Stewart say or joke about, is stuff like this, which Bill Maher has uttered/joked about, more than once:

1. In regards of Tila Tequila, he started victim- blaming while using misogynist slurs: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/reproductivejustice/142662/newsflash%3A_bill_maher_is_sexist_and_annoying/.

 2. Him making sweeping generalizations about women in politics and in general: http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/2/83236/46536.

3. And finally, here he is, making these remarks regarding breastfeeding: http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/2007/09/bill-maher-is-misogynistic-anti.html.

How is that okay? Really? I don't care if Bill Maher has made other great points in regards of other things, at the end of the day he is still a misogynist and I don't care about what party he belongs to. When I see people, that I know, defend this, I get angry and frustrated.

"But women make sweeping generalizations regarding men as well, so it's not sexist, it's just something that people do."

Yes, and that isn't okay either. But do we have a history of oppressing men? Do we have the male privilege in regards of work and social status? Check out this blog and come back to me: http://www.amptoons.com/blog/the-male-privilege-checklist/.

This just really bothers me, and it isn't okay. Am I alone in this? I am sick and tired or seeing progressive people defending statements like these, because it's the left making them.


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I've had several rare moments, and when they happen, they almost make up, just a little bit, for some of the tragic failures of humanity.

Jon Stewart is one of the people who continuously gives me faith in humanity. I can't even begin to explain why, because the love and respect I have for that man goes beyond words. He brings laugther, joy, and sense into a world that has so many flaws. His show gives me a sense of not being alone with my thoughts and feelings on everything from politics to basic human decency.

He also does a good job killing the stererotype of what ALL Americans are like. Living in a socialistic 'sissy' country that Bill O'reilly and Glenn Beck have so often used to create fear and fuel ignorance, it is refreshing to see opinions from an American who doesn't hate us or our values with a fiery passion, and who still doesn't shill for any party. And, as it turns out, there are many other Americans just like him out there, and I've met a lot of these people through mutual love of his show, and it has changed on how I see America and Americans. So thanks for that.

He is also supportive of basic human decency, like gay rights and helping the poor, which is some of the things that, in my opinion, makes a person very good. Him, being rich, outright saying that he wouln't mind paying more taxes to help poor people, gives me faith in the notion that some people, no matter how rich or famous they get, don't forget their basic human decency. He is one of the people who often create those moments in my life.

There has been other things, just little things, that people do sometimes, that gives me faith in humanity. Whether it is hearing about a child trying to earn money to help a family member out, seeing normal everyday people helping after a disaster or an accident took place, or people standing up for what is morally right. Moments like these, when people come together, in love, and help each other out, are heartwarming and gives me faith in humanity.

I often hate humanity and the bigotry of people, but there are moments where people do show their goodness and their compassion, and those moments mean a lot to me.
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http://community.livejournal.com/jonnystew/profile

Jon Stewart fans wanna join? I still need a header, so if anyone would be interested in making that I will be forever grateful. And I will credit.

Also, anyone wanna help mod??? Alex,  you mentioned you want to, shall I invite you? Anyone else? :D
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Um, so, I noticed that there isn't any active comms about Jon Stewart on LJ, or even on the internet, and that makes me sad, because I know how much people love him, and how many fans he has.

So, I am thinking about maybe starting up a comm about him on LJ? For news, pictures, articles involving him in some way. This way I can post in an actual comm instead of flooding my journal with all things Jon(it can be annoying for my non- Daily Show watching friends). But I can't do this on my own, and I don't know how to mod, make layouts, set up rules, etc, any of that jazz, so if anyone wants to co-mod, help with any of this, it would be really great. I know I have a lot of fellow Jon lovers on my Flist.

And btw; I don't know if I am even capable of doing a good job as a mod, because my life is not very stable at the moment, but I really think we need a comm for him, and if my role could be something like, accepting posts, banning trolls, and stuff like that, then it would be great.

Does this sound interesting to any of you guys? A good or a bad idea?

Any help with this would be much appreciated.<3

I don't even have a name yet, lol.
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1. Jon is a comedian, making fun of people and pointing out their mistake is his job; HE IS UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO BE A JOURNALIST, NO MATTER HOW MUCH PEOPLE SEE HIM AS ONE. I have thought a lot about this and the fact of the matter is: Jon doesn't claim to be a journalist, so, no, he can't be expected to be one. This has nothing to do with 'having guts' or 'being edgy' because Jon is still a comedian; and giving your opinion on things/pointing out stupidity/making fun of people; STILL FALLS UNDER THE CATEGORY OF A COMEDIAN. And he is not the only comedian to do this; he just happen to be more honest and factual than others;  but that still doesn't make him a journalist. Saying that he doesn't go after the people you want him to, not always do hard-hitting interviews,  doesn't matter, because he does his show from his point of view, and is under no obligation to do what the news should. Critisizing the news doesn't mean that he should take it upon himself to fix it, that is not his job. The fact that he is more factual and balanced than the other news channels, is a bonus, and says something about the state of the media; not the state of him or his show.

2. You are a fucking idiot. You say that 'enough liberals do' so it's okay to make generalizations. Well, hmm, most of the teabaggers I've encountered are dumb, racist, ignorant, calls Obama for Hitler, and believe that Obama is the Anti Christ/not born in America. By your account, that makes it okay to make generalizations, right? Except, you don't think so, because it's people you agree with, which makes you, wait for it, A HYPOCRIT.

3. I can't wait for Jon and The Daily Show writers to own you on this; or even better, ignore you, because you don't deserve to even get mentioned on their show; THAT'S HOW PATHETIC YOU ARE. Join the ranks of Tucker Carlson, Jim Cramer, and John Gibson, bb, cuz soon that will be all you have.
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Watch from 07.00 to the end, to hear him whine about Jon.

Gems include:

-Tucker Carlson saying the word 'cabal, which is a major DNW.
-"I thought it was stupid, what he was saying" Tucker missing Jon's points.
-"I didn't get that I was percieved to have lost"  Tucker being unaware of his fail.
- "Jon Stewart is just more famous and popular than I am" Tucker being butthurt.
-"I'm not mad about it!" Tucker being in denial.
-"It hasn't affected my life....
Or maybe it has, but I don't care to think about it" Tucker finally realizes something.
-"I think he won because he is more popular than I" Tucker missing Jon's points, while retorting to highschool logic (again).
-"I'm not very self-aware at all" Tucker being aware of his unawareness.


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I just checked No Fact Zone today, and a person who saw the taping of the last Toss, commented and said that Stephen said that they weren't going to do the Toss anymore:

http://www.nofactzone.net/2010/03/20/daily-show-toss-recap-week-of-31510/#comments

That's right. If this person is legit, there is no more tosses.

But... But.. No. I think I might actually cry. I can't deal with this. WHY?! It's like TCR has grown up and left TDS. They were the last thing that tied them together. This is a sad day guys. I shouln't be this sad about it, but I am. How are we going to see Jon and Stephen interact now? Is this the end? :(

*cries*

DON'T BREAK MY FANGIRL HEART.

I'm not even gonna lie, this is making me sad.

*Goes to watch lots of Tosses*

D': D': D':

Eta: I hope this isn't true, I'm waiting for someone legit to confirm this. It could be someone trolling or making something out of nothing.

Eta 2: It has now been removed from the site because it wasn't veritified, so maybe it wasn't true after all.

Eta 3: I call troll:

'Oh for God sake. You’ve just lost a long time fan of your site. Anyone that was there heard the same thing. And I made it very clear that The Toss may return.

~ so overdone ~

snobbery does not become

U'

lol I don't even... That is NOT what the person said. The person said that Stephen said there were no more tosses. Blah, stupid person.


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